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The web does not need gatekeepers: Cloudflare’s new “signed agents” pitch

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454 points positiveblue | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 16:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.279s | source
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impure ◴[29 Aug 25 16:55 UTC] No.45066528[source]▶
Well, if you have a better way to solve this that’s open I’m all ears. But what Cloudflare is doing is solving the real problem of AI bots. We’ve tried to solve this problem with IP blocking and user agents, but they do not work. And this is actually how other similar problems have been solved. Certificate authorities aren’t open and yet they work just fine. Attestation providers are also not open and they work just fine.
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viktorcode ◴[29 Aug 25 17:24 UTC] No.45066914[source]▶
AI poisoning is a better protection. Cloudflare is capable of serving stashes of bad data to AI bots as protective barrier to their clients.
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esseph ◴[29 Aug 25 17:30 UTC] No.45066992[source]▶
AI poisoning is going to get a lot of people killed, be cause the AI won't stop being used.
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viktorcode ◴[29 Aug 25 18:33 UTC] No.45067767[source]▶
By that logic AI already killing people. We can't presume that whatever can be found on the internet is reliable data, can't we?
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1. lucb1e ◴[29 Aug 25 18:40 UTC] No.45067842[source]▶
If science taught us anything it's that no data is ever reliable. We are pretty sure about so many things, and it's the best available info so we might as well use it, but in terms of "the internet can be wrong" -> any source can be wrong! And I'd not even be surprised if internet in aggregate (with the bot reading all of it) is right more often than individual authors of pretty much anything