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caminanteblanco ◴[] No.45065331[source]
There was some tangentially related discussion in this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45050415, but this cost analysis answers so many questions, and gives me a better idea of how huge the margin on inference a lot of these providers could be taking. Plus I'm sure that Google or OpenAI can get more favorable data center rates than the average Joe Scmoe.

A node of 8 H100s will run you $31.40/hr on AWS, so for all 96 you're looking at $376.80/hr. With 188 million input tokens/hr and 80 million output tokens/hr, that comes out to around $2/million input tokens, and $4.70/million output tokens.

This is actually a lot more than Deepseek r1's rates of $0.10-$0.60/million input and $2/million output, but I'm sure major providers are not paying AWS p5 on-demand pricing.

Edit: those figures were per node, so the actual input and output prices would be divided by 12.$0.17/million input tokens, and $0.39/million output

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1. bluedino ◴[] No.45067796[source]
> A node of 8 H100s will run you $31.40/hr on AWS, so for all 96 you're looking at $376.80/hr

And what stinks is that you can't even build a Dell/HPE server like this online. You have to 'request a quote' for an 'AI Server'

Going through SuperMicro, you're looking at about $60k for the server, plus 8 GPU's at $25,000 each, so you're close to $300,000 for an 8 GPU node.

Now, that doesn't include networking, storage, racks, electricity, cooling, someone to set that all up for you, $1,000 DAC cables, NVIDIA middleware, downtime as the H100's are the flakiest pieces of junk ever and will need to be replaced every so often...

Setting up a 96 H100 cluster (12 of those puppies) in this case is probably going to cost you $4-5 million. But it should cost less than AWS after a year and a half.

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2. Tepix ◴[] No.45068071[source]
I think you can get the server itself quite a bit cheaper than $60k. I found a barebone for around 19400€ at https://www.lambda-tek.de/Supermicro-SYS-821GE-TNHR-sh/B4760...
3. Spooky23 ◴[] No.45071538[source]
> And what stinks is that you can't even build a Dell/HPE server like this online. You have to 'request a quote' for an 'AI Server'

The hot parts are/were on allocation to both vendors. They try to sus out your use case and redirect you to less constrained parts.