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troad ◴[] No.45062852[source]
You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms.

It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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smallerfish ◴[] No.45063015[source]
Settings > Privacy > Privacy Settings
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kossTKR ◴[] No.45063052[source]
i don't see any setting related to this? just:

Export data

Shared chats

Location metadata

Review and update terms and conditions

I'm in the EU, maybe that's helping me?

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croes ◴[] No.45063126{3}[source]
Have you clicked "Review and update terms and conditions"?

It's part of the update

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kossTKR ◴[] No.45063146{4}[source]
Oh i see thanks. That's a dark design pattern, hiding stuff like that.

No one cares about anything else but they have lots of superflous text and they are calling it "help us get better", blah blah, it's "help us earn more money and potentially sell or leak your extremely private info", so they are lying.

Considering cancelling my subscription right this moment.

I hope EU at leat considers banning or extreme-fining companies trying to retroactively use peoples extremely private data like this, it's completely over the line.

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klabb3 ◴[] No.45063538{5}[source]
EU or not, it baffled me that people don't see this glaring conflict of interest. AI companies both produce the model and rent out inference. In other words, you're expecting that the company that (a) desperately crave your data the most and (b) that also happen to collect large amounts of high quality data from you will simply not use it. It's like asking a child to keep your candy safe.

I'd love to live in a society where laws could effectively regulate these things. I would also like a Pony.

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kossTKR ◴[] No.45063733{6}[source]
This is why we need actual regulation, and not the semi fascist monopolist corporatocracy we've evolved into now.

Its only utopian because it's become so incredibly bad.

We shouldn't expect less, we shouldn't push guilt or responsibility onto the consumer we should push for more, unless you actively want your neighbour, you mom, and 95% of the population to be in constant trouble with absolutely everything from tech to food safety, chemicals or healthcare - most people aren't rich engineers like on this forum and i don't want to research for 5 hours every time i buy something because some absolute psychopaths have removed all regulation and sensible defaults so someone can party on a yacht.

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1. frm88 ◴[] No.45064824{7}[source]
Bravo! This has to be the most coherent and well-formulated rant I have read in a longtime. Thank you!