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troad ◴[] No.45062852[source]
You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms.

It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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perihelions ◴[] No.45062894[source]
What are you replacing it with?
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troad ◴[] No.45063029[source]
Two weeks left in the sub to figure it out, but I'm not yet sure. I was never all in on all the tooling, I mostly used it as smart search (e.g. ImageMagick incantations) and for trivial scripting that I couldn't be bothered writing myself, so I might just stick to whatever comes with Kagi, see if that doesn't cover me.
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perihelions ◴[] No.45063084[source]
How does Kagi (claim that they) enforce privacy rights on the major LLM providers? Have they negotiated a special contract?

I'm looking at

> "When you use the Assistant by Kagi, your data is never used to train AI models (not by us or by the LLM providers), and no account information is shared with the LLM providers. By default, threads are deleted after 24 hours of inactivity. This behavior can be adjusted in the settings."

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html#privacy

And trying to reconcile those claims with the instant thread. Anthropic is listed as one of their back-end providers. Is that data retained for five years on Anthropic's end, or 24 hours? Is that data used for training Anthropic models, or has Anthropic agreed in writing not to, for Kagi clients?

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1. FergusArgyll ◴[] No.45063321[source]
They are using llm's through the API where it's the b2b world and you can get privacy