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Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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747 points porridgeraisin | 6 comments | 29 Aug 25 11:29 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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I_am_tiberius ◴[29 Aug 25 12:01 UTC] No.45062905[source]▶
In my opinion, training models on user data without their real consent (real consent = e.g. the user must sign a contract or so, so he's definitely aware), should be considered a serious criminal offense.
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jsheard ◴[29 Aug 25 12:08 UTC] No.45062989[source]▶
Why single out user data specifically? Most of the data Anthropic and co train on was just scooped up from wherever with zero consent, not even the courtesy of a buried TOS clause, and their users were always implicitly fine with that. Forgive me for not having much sympathy when the users end up reaping what they've sown.
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1. perihelions ◴[29 Aug 25 12:14 UTC] No.45063051[source]▶
Training on private user interactions is a privacy violation; training on public, published texts is (some argue) an intellectual property violation. They're very different kinds of moral rights.
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2. diggan ◴[29 Aug 25 12:54 UTC] No.45063481[source]▶
Have Anthropic ever written clearly exactly about what training datasets they use? Like a list of everything included? AFAIK, all the providers/labs are kind of tightly lipped about this, so I think it's safe to assume they've slurped up all data they've come across via multiple methodologies, "private" or not.
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4. dmbche ◴[29 Aug 25 13:19 UTC] No.45063756[source]▶
Look at the suits against them they list it there
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5. diggan ◴[29 Aug 25 13:33 UTC] No.45063910{3}[source]▶
Are there complete lists in the suits? Last time I skimmed them, they contained allegations of sources, and some admissions like The Pile, LibGen, Books3, PiLiMi, scanned books, web scrapes and some other sources I don't remember, but AFAIK there isn't any complete inventory of training datasets they used.
6. jsheard ◴[29 Aug 25 13:52 UTC] No.45064161[source]▶
I wish I could be so optimistic that there is no private information published unintentionally or maliciously on the open web where crawlers can find it.

(and as diggan said, the web isn't the only source they use anyway. who knows what they're buying from data brokers.)