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    Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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    747 points porridgeraisin | 11 comments | 29 Aug 25 11:29 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    troad ◴[29 Aug 25 11:56 UTC] No.45062852[source]▶
    You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms.

    It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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    1. episteme ◴[29 Aug 25 12:07 UTC] No.45062975[source]▶
    What will you use instead? I’m finding Claude the best experience since ChatGPT 5 is so slow and not any better answers than 4.
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    2. teekert ◴[29 Aug 25 12:14 UTC] No.45063056[source]▶
    Granted, it is a stretch and not near the features of Claude (no code etc), but at least Proton's Lumo [0] is very privacy oriented.

    I have to admit, I've used it a bit over the last days and still reactivated my Claude pro subscription today so... Let's say it's ok for casual stuff? Also useful for casual coding questions. So if you care about it, it's an option.

    [0] https://lumo.proton.me/

    3. javierluraschi ◴[29 Aug 25 12:42 UTC] No.45063355[source]▶
    https://grok.com
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    4. ehnto ◴[29 Aug 25 12:53 UTC] No.45063460[source]▶
    From the frypan into the fire. I think the reality, proven by history and even just this short five years, is no company will hold onto their ethics in this space. This should surprise no one since the first step of the enterprise is hoovering up the worlds data without permission.
    5. Arubis ◴[29 Aug 25 12:56 UTC] No.45063504[source]▶
    Worse by every measure.
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    6. mac-attack ◴[29 Aug 25 13:24 UTC] No.45063800[source]▶
    What sane person would downgrade to Grok
    7. weregiraffe ◴[29 Aug 25 14:35 UTC] No.45064689[source]▶
    >What will you use instead? I’m finding Claude the best experience since ChatGPT 5 is so slow and not any better answers than 4.

    You could try programming with your own brain

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    9. soiltype ◴[29 Aug 25 15:04 UTC] No.45065093[source]▶
    Since I don't use LLMs to directly code for me, I'm going to (mis?)place my trust in Kagi assistant entirely for the time being. It claims not to associate prompts with individual accounts. Small friction of keeping a browser tab open is worth it for me for now.
    10. weberer ◴[29 Aug 25 15:10 UTC] No.45065156{3}[source]▶
    What metrics are you looking at? Grok 4 outperforms Claude 4 Opus in the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index.

    https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models

    11. nocommandline ◴[29 Aug 25 16:54 UTC] No.45066512[source]▶
    If you aren't using it for coding or advanced uses like video, etc, you can try running models locally on your machine using Ollama and others like it.

    Self plug here - If you aren't technical and still want to run models locally, you can try our App [1]

    1] https://ai.nocommandline.com