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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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485 points zora_goron | 2 comments | 29 Aug 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.429s | source
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not_your_vase ◴[29 Aug 25 05:23 UTC] No.45060519[source]▶
3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot.

I asked 2 things.

1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent drivers, and for some reason it enabled monkey test support (but not test support).

2. I asked it to create 7x10 monochromatic pixelmaps, as C integer arrays, for numeric characters, 0-9. I also gave an example. It generated them, but number eight looked like zero. (There was no cross in ether 0 nor 8, so it wasn't that. Both were just a ring)

What am I doing wrong? Or is this really the state of the art?

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1. baq ◴[29 Aug 25 08:46 UTC] No.45061711[source]▶
> What am I doing wrong? Or is this really the state of the art?

You're treating the tool like it was an oracle. The correct way is to treat it as a somewhat autistic junior dev: give it examples and process to follow, tell it to search the web, read the docs, how to execute tests. Especially important is either directly linking or just copy pasting any and all relevant documentation.

The tool has a lossily compressed knowledge database of the public internet and lots of books. You want to fix the relevant lossy parts in the context. The less popular something is, the more context will be needed to fill the gaps.

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2. mexicocitinluez ◴[29 Aug 25 12:12 UTC] No.45063035[source]▶
> The correct way is to treat it as a somewhat autistic junior dev: give it examples and process to follow, tell it to search the web, read the docs, how to execute tests. Especially important is either directly linking or just copy pasting any and all relevant documentation.

Like "Translate this pdf to html using X as a templating language". It shines at stuff like that.

As a dev, I encounter tons of one-off scenarios like this.