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485 points zora_goron | 2 comments | 29 Aug 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.656s | source
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not_your_vase ◴[29 Aug 25 05:23 UTC] No.45060519[source]▶
3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot.

I asked 2 things.

1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent drivers, and for some reason it enabled monkey test support (but not test support).

2. I asked it to create 7x10 monochromatic pixelmaps, as C integer arrays, for numeric characters, 0-9. I also gave an example. It generated them, but number eight looked like zero. (There was no cross in ether 0 nor 8, so it wasn't that. Both were just a ring)

What am I doing wrong? Or is this really the state of the art?

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OtherShrezzing ◴[29 Aug 25 06:15 UTC] No.45060786[source]▶
It’s good at doing stuff like “host this all in Docker. Make a Postgres database with a Users table. Make a FastAPI CRUD endpoint for Users. Make a React site with a homepage, login page, and user dashboard”.

It’ll successfully produce _something_ like that, because there’s millions of examples of those technologies online. If you do anything remotely niche, you need to hold its hand far more.

The more complicated your requirements are, the closer you are to having “spicy autocomplete”. If you’re just making a crud react app, you can talk in high level natural language.

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1. ranguna ◴[29 Aug 25 08:21 UTC] No.45061547[source]▶
Did you try claude code and spend actual time going back and forth with it, reviewing it's code and providing suggestions; Instead of just expecting things to work first try with minimal requirements?

I see claude code as pair programming with a junior/mid dev that knows all fields of computer engineering. I still need to nudge it here and there, it will still make noob mistakes that I need to correct and I let it know how to properly do things when it gets them wrong. But coding sessions have been great and productive.

In the end, I use it when working with software that I barely know. Once I'm up and running, I rarely use it.

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2. johnisgood ◴[29 Aug 25 08:38 UTC] No.45061662[source]▶
> Did you try claude code and spend actual time going back and forth with it, reviewing it's code and providing suggestions; Instead of just expecting things to work first try with minimal requirements?

I did, but I always approached LLM for coding this way and I have never been let down. You need to be as specific as possible, be a part of the whole process. I have no issues with it.