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simonw ◴[] No.45054022[source]
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/sam-altman-gpt5-launch-chat... quotes Sam Altman saying:

> Most of what we're building out at this point is the inference [...] We're profitable on inference. If we didn't pay for training, we'd be a very profitable company.

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aeternum ◴[] No.45054102[source]
This can be technically true without being actually true.

IE OpenAI invests in Cursor/Windsurf/Startups that give away credits to users and make heavy use of inference API. Money flows back to OpenAI then OpenAI sends it back to those companies via credits/investment $.

It's even more circular in this case because nvidia is also funding companies that generate significant inference.

It'll be quite difficult to figure out whether it's actually profitable until the new investment dollars start to dry up.

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citizenpaul ◴[] No.45055299[source]
There a journalist ed zittron

https://www.wheresyoured.at/

That is an openai skeptic. His research if correct says not only is openai unprofitable but it likely never will be. Can't be ,its various finance ratios make early uber, amazon ect look downright fiscally frugal.

He is not a tech person for what that means to you.

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dcre ◴[] No.45056292[source]
Zitron is not a serious analyst.

https://bsky.app/profile/davidcrespo.bsky.social/post/3lxale...

https://bsky.app/profile/davidcrespo.bsky.social/post/3lo22k...

https://bsky.app/profile/davidcrespo.bsky.social/post/3lwhhz...

https://bsky.app/profile/davidcrespo.bsky.social/post/3lv2dx...

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1. citizenpaul ◴[] No.45060687[source]
Well yes. He is a journalist. Not an analyst. I don't think he is a prophet or anything nor is is a tech person so yeah his details on operation are off. The money business side though he seem to be the only person willing to poke holes in the whole AI thing publicly.

I'm not an AI hater. I genuinely hope it take over every single white collar job that exists. I'm not being sarcastic or hyperbolic. Only then will we be able to re-discuss what society is in a more humane way.