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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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485 points zora_goron | 10 comments | 29 Aug 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.423s | source | bottom
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Lammy ◴[29 Aug 25 04:47 UTC] No.45060316[source]▶
Interesting to think about how Apple get to make product decisions based on Gatekeeper OCSP analytics now that every app launch phones home. They must know exactly how popular VSCode is.

Facebook got excoriated for doing that with Onavo but I guess it's Good Actually when it's done in the name of protecting my computer from myself lol

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1. doctorpangloss ◴[29 Aug 25 05:42 UTC] No.45060628[source]▶
Apple doesn't need telemetry to send emails about their favorite coding AI to the 2 Xcode users
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2. kennywinker ◴[29 Aug 25 07:17 UTC] No.45061164[source]▶
Off by about 33,999,998 users, but still a decent dunk.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/apple-now-has-ove...

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3. LinuxAmbulance ◴[29 Aug 25 07:25 UTC] No.45061209[source]▶
34 million developers? That number doesn't even pass a basic sniff test. Are there 34 million people that have Xcode installed? That I can believe.
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4. _puk ◴[29 Aug 25 07:33 UTC] No.45061251{3}[source]▶
If my experience is anything to go by - a good proportion of this will be people accidentally double clicking a .md (or other random text suffix), and cursing whilst they wait for XCode to slowly load enough that they can quit it and open the file in a proper lightweight editor..
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5. tomashubelbauer ◴[29 Aug 25 08:17 UTC] No.45061514{4}[source]▶
I feel like the #1 reason to install Xcode is to get Git working on macOS. Yours is probably #2. I wouldn't bet money on iOS/macOS development sitting at #3.
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6. oarsinsync ◴[29 Aug 25 08:47 UTC] No.45061725{3}[source]▶
> At Apple's World Wide Developer Conference on Monday, Tim Cook mentioned that there are now 34 million registered developers with the company's platform.

I think that means either:

  * they have revenues of $3.4b/year just from the $100 annual fees, or
  * some decent percentage of people have signed up for a free developer account and then never done anything with it (like me)
7. doctorpangloss ◴[29 Aug 25 16:47 UTC] No.45066422[source]▶
We found one of the users!
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8. slipperydippery ◴[29 Aug 25 17:10 UTC] No.45066720{4}[source]▶
Yep, I open Xcode several times per year, but haven't done it on purpose since... uh, 2014 or so?
9. Lammy ◴[29 Aug 25 18:11 UTC] No.45067523{5}[source]▶
Command Line Tools for Xcode is a separate smaller package than the full graphical Xcode tho: `xcode-select --install`
10. kennywinker ◴[29 Aug 25 21:50 UTC] No.45069828{3}[source]▶
Not currently, but yes my full time job has involved xcode many times.