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storus ◴[] No.45056430[source]
With the Android becoming a privacy nightmare, Pine was like the only hope for some FOSS phones. Their main drawback was the software. Now given the coding LLMs available these days, would generating a set of useful apps for Pine be a major problem? They can be pretty minimalistic but must be 100% reliable for the platform to take off. Right now they are super buggy and basic features work randomly.
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1. xethos ◴[] No.45060231[source]
I used a Pinephone Pro as a daily carry. It wasn't actually the lack of apps that killed it for me. Fractal, the Gnome Matrix client, was great. Phone calls were functional, Mobile Thunderbird (thanks to PmOS packagers), Mobile Firefox, and Gapless (my preferred music player for mobile) all worked well, and I could actually use native apps for most of my use-cases, like Gnome Password Safe (the Keepass client), Gnome Calendar, etc.

The battery life and performance absolutely murdered it though, and it was worse for the Librem 5. The PPP at least had external chargers for sale, and was made to be compatible with Samsung batteries, so I could, and did, carry 3 on me. The (larger) dev community for the PPP also put out things like Sleepwalk (to periodically wake the modem for notifications), and had more stable, cooler- and longer-running modem software for the PPP.

Somehow, the software for Linux Mobile isn't impossibly far off. Modems are a bitch though. Like, buy Qualcomm stock levels of "This shit is insane, how does any of it work as well as it does".

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2. fsflover ◴[] No.45062245[source]
> and it was worse for the Librem 5

I guess it should be better now: https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391...

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3. xethos ◴[] No.45064131[source]
Note that this improves reliability for suspending the modem, not power draw while the modem is awake. The Pinephone (and Pro's) modem stil runs circles around the L5's modem for power draw and data reliability, and I say that having used the L5 with the improvements you pointed to.