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    jimmont ◴[] No.45059611[source]
    Organizations are choosing to eliminate workers rather than amplify them with AI because they'd rather own 100% of diminished capacity than share proceeds from exponentially increased capacity. That's the rent extraction model consuming its own productive infrastructure. The Stanford study documents organizations systematically choosing inferior economic strategies because their rent-extraction frameworks cannot conceptualize workers as productive assets to amplify. This reveals that these organizations are economic rent-seekers that happen to have productive workers, not production companies that happen to extract rents. When forced to choose between preserving rent extraction structures or maximizing value creation, they preserve extraction even at the cost of destroying productive capacity. So what comes next?
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    1. jameslk ◴[] No.45059868[source]
    > So what comes next?

    When you don’t need as many people because of automation, you also don’t need them to fight your wars. You use drones and other automated weapons. You don’t need things like democracy because that was to prevent people from turning to revolution, and that problem has been solved with automated weapons. So then you don’t really need as many people anymore, so you stop providing the expensive healthcare, food production, and water to keep them all alive

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    2. schrodinger ◴[] No.45060007[source]
    Dark. But I can't think of a way to rebuke it…
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    3. cinntaile ◴[] No.45060055[source]
    The current wave of automation (LLMs) aren't capable of "fighting your wars".
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    4. jrvarela56 ◴[] No.45060078[source]
    Why does Mr Beast dig wells in Africa?
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    5. shams93 ◴[] No.45060091[source]
    Yeah this is what we are seeing today, also its not just junior jobs going, according to Amazon they are using it to get rid of expensive senior employees while they are actually holding onto juniors using ai tools.

    We have seen a lot of use of h1b and outsourcing despite the massive job shortage. Seeing lots of fake job sites filled with ai generated fake openings and paid membership for access to "premium jobs."

    They're using ICE to effectively pay half the country to murder the other half, but the ICE budget is limited so that automated systems can then gun down the ICE community to replace 99.9% of humans with machines.

    Ultimately this is great for Russia because they'll still be able to invade even if they have only 300 soldiers left in their military, after they hit a low orbit nuke blast to shutdown the Ai US, basically only Melania swinging her purse at the troops will be one of the few left alive to resist.

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    6. biztos ◴[] No.45060127[source]
    This works even better with a declining fertility rate!
    7. jameslk ◴[] No.45060248[source]
    There's likely a slippery slope fallacy in there somewhere (I hope). If interested in the (not so) sci-fi aspects of automated weapons and their ramifications, I often plug Daniel Suarez's great Kill Decision talk and book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYYx_im5QI
    8. anon191928 ◴[] No.45061188[source]
    palantir and anduril :))
    9. myaccountonhn ◴[] No.45061527[source]
    Its deterministic and assumes that those in power are one uniform force. Its still possible to push for a different future.
    10. MangoToupe ◴[] No.45062074[source]
    > Ultimately this is great for Russia

    Wat

    11. _ink_ ◴[] No.45063113[source]
    > When you don’t need as many people because of automation

    You want to sell your stuff to someone, tho. So, unless you find a way to automate consumption as well, you do need people and lots of it.

    12. paulryanrogers ◴[] No.45063517[source]
    To launder his reputation? To distract that the source of his wealth is selling gambling and sugar to children? To feel better about himself?
    13. ImPostingOnHN ◴[] No.45065650[source]
    Ukraine and russia are already employing low-cost recon and hunter-killer drones

    israel is already using sniper drones in Palestine that use AI to fly around and headshot whatever moves, as well as AI to select their bombing targets.

    the future is now, isn't it exciting?