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507 points martinald | 1 comments | 28 Aug 25 10:15 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source

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gitremote ◴[28 Aug 25 13:44 UTC] No.45052117[source]▶

These numbers are off.

> $20/month ChatGPT Pro user: Heavy daily usage but token-limited

ChatGPT Pro is $200/month and Sam Altman already admitted that OpenAI is losing money from Pro subscriptions in January 2025:

"insane thing: we are currently losing money on openai pro subscriptions!

people use it much more than we expected."

- Sam Altman, January 6, 2025

Anyone paying attention should have zero trust in what Sam Altman says.

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What do you think his strategy is? He has to make money at some point.

I don’t buy the logic that he will “scam” his investors and run away at some point.

1. KingMob ◴[29 Aug 25 03:11 UTC] No.45059721[source]▶

> He has to make money at some point.

Yes, but two paths to doing that are to a) build a profitable company, and b) accumulate personal wealth and walk away from a non-profitable company.

I'm not saying OpenAI is unprofitable, but nor do I see Altman as the sort who'd rule out option b.

Are OpenAI and Anthropic losing money on inference?