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485 points zora_goron | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.202s | source
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echelon ◴[29 Aug 25 01:31 UTC] No.45059007[source]▶
Can't each of these companies with IDE integrations slurp up the network traffic and distill Anthropic's models?

If you can listen to billions of tokens a day, you can basically capture all the magic.

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jasonjmcghee ◴[29 Aug 25 01:50 UTC] No.45059133[source]▶
Terms of service specifically prohibits this.
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echelon ◴[29 Aug 25 02:12 UTC] No.45059271[source]▶
The companies stole that data from the world, so I don't see why we couldn't take it back.
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1. TimeBearingDown ◴[29 Aug 25 03:08 UTC] No.45059698[source]▶
It's a nice sentiment. The companies with the integrations are the ones that could take it back, but they don't have the incentive to break legal agreements and share with the world.

Meanwhile the creative output of humanity is distilled into black boxes to benefit those who can scrape it the most and burn the most power, but this impact is distributed amongst everyone, so again there's little incentive among those who could create (likely legal) change.