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AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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440 points pseudolus | 2 comments | 28 Aug 25 14:13 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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fibers ◴[28 Aug 25 14:46 UTC] No.45052852[source]▶
The accounting note is not true in the traditional sense. The field in the US is just getting offshored to India/PH/Eastern Europe for better or for worse. There is even a big push to lower the educational requirements to attain licensure in the US (Big 4 partners want more bodies and are destroying the pipeline for US students). Audit quality will continue to suffer and public filers will issue bunk financials if they aren't properly attested to.
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raincole ◴[29 Aug 25 02:02 UTC] No.45059205[source]▶
It's amusing to see programmers in the US promoting remote work.

Do those people really believe they're the most intellectually superior to the rest of the world? If a job can be done purely remotely, what stops the employer from hiring someone who lives in a cheaper place?

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jmspring ◴[29 Aug 25 02:41 UTC] No.45059496[source]▶
As some have said, it's not about being superior. Common language, background, maybe overlaps in education, and avoiding cultures like those at Indian offshore companies where there is a lot of churn, maybe 1 Sr person you "hired" really farming the work out to multiple Jr people.

Timezone overlap is also a big one.

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1. hn_throwaway_99 ◴[29 Aug 25 02:47 UTC] No.45059555[source]▶
I agree with what you've written, but I've worked with colleagues in South America and Eastern Europe where none of those problems existed: folks spoke perfect English, people were incredibly motivated to do a good job, and they spoke up proactively when problems arose.

I have had issues with Indian outsourcers like you say (lots of churn, time zone hell, a culture of pretending everything is fine until release day and then saying "sorry, nothing works", etc.), but it's a bigger world now, and there are still lots of folks making half of US dev salaries where none of these problems exist.

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2. DrewADesign ◴[29 Aug 25 05:12 UTC] No.45060454[source]▶
My intuition says there are some stylistic differences. It seems like some development cultures somewhat have better results with more rigid computer engineering sort of tasks with high granularity requirements and more straightforward goals, even if the tasks are really hard, deeply technical and the goals are difficult. I think some are better at the more nebulous sort of tasks with a lot of flexibility. Both are really useful mindsets that seem much less useful if improperly applied.

Given, outsourcing is probably going to be hit-or-miss regardless of who’s doing it.