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1309 points rickybule | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source

Indonesia is currently in chaos. Earlier today, the government blocked access to Twitter & Discord knowing news spread mainly through those channels. Usually we can use Cloudflare's WARP to avoid it, but just today they blocked the access as well. What alternative should we use?
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reisse ◴[] No.45055399[source]
You've come to a wrong place to ask. Most people here (judging by recommendations of own VPN instances, Tor, Tailscale/other Wireguard-based VPNs, and Mullvad) don't have any experience with censorship circumvention.

Just look for any VPNs that are advertised specifically for China, Russia, or Iran. These are the cutting edge tech, they may not be so privacy-friendly as Mullvad, but they will certainly work.

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kragen ◴[] No.45055738[source]
VPNs that are advertised are for-profit products, which means:

1. They are in most cases run by national spy agencies.

2. They will at least appear to work, i.e., they will provide you with access to websites that are blocked by the country you are in. Depending on which country's spies run the system, they may actually work in the sense of hiding your traffic from that country's spies, or they may mark you as a specific target and save all your traffic for later analysis.

My inclination is to prefer free (open-source) software that isn't controlled by a company which can use that control against its users.

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some_random ◴[] No.45055752[source]
Do you have any evidence for either of these claims?
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Daishiman ◴[] No.45055787[source]
It is absolutely self-evident that VPNs are considered high-value targets and that all spy agencies invest a chunk of resources to go after high-value targets.
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gnfargbl ◴[] No.45056027[source]
I would invite you to read again the two claims made, and consider whether your statement actually addresses the veracity of either.

To be a little trite: we all agree that chickens like grain, but it does not follow that a majority of grain producers are secretly controlled by a cabal of poultry.

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1. rl3 ◴[] No.45058457[source]
>... but it does not follow that a majority of grain producers are secretly controlled by a cabal of poultry.

That's precisely what someone who's in on it would say.