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Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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597 points classichasclass | 1 comments | 25 Aug 25 04:23 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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yumraj ◴[25 Aug 25 07:26 UTC] No.45011231[source]▶
Wouldn't it be better, if there's an easy way, to just feed such bots shit data instead of blocking them. I know it's easier to block and saves compute and bandwidth, but perhaps feeding them shit data at scale would be a much better longer term solution.
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throwawayffffas ◴[25 Aug 25 07:31 UTC] No.45011266[source]▶
No serving shit data costs bandwidth and possibly compute time.

Blocking IPS is much cheaper for the blocker.

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fuckaj ◴[25 Aug 25 08:56 UTC] No.45011761[source]▶
Zip bomb?
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aspenmayer ◴[25 Aug 25 09:47 UTC] No.45012067[source]▶
Doesn’t that tie up a socket on the server similarly to how a keepalive would on the bot user end?
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recursive ◴[25 Aug 25 15:43 UTC] No.45015110[source]▶
I don't think so. The payload size of the bytes on the wire is small. This premise is all dependent on the .zip being crawled synchronously by the same thread/job making the request.
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aspenmayer ◴[26 Aug 25 13:00 UTC] No.45025944[source]▶
What if bots catch on to zip bombs, and just download them really slowly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Dichotomy_p...

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1. throwawayffffas ◴[28 Aug 25 23:37 UTC] No.45058250[source]▶
Their objective is not to DDOS websites, if they catch on, they will download it fast and then discard it.