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ares623 ◴[] No.45056350[source]
> Other forms of engineering have to take into account the variability of the world.

> Maybe LLMs mark the point where we join our engineering peers in a world on non-determinism.

Those other forms of engineering have no choice due to the nature of what they are engineering.

Software engineers already have a way to introduce determinism into the systems they build! We’re going backwards!

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didericis ◴[] No.45056511[source]
Part of what got me into software was this: no matter how complex or impressive the operation, with enough time and determination, you could trace each step and learn how a tap on a joystick lead to the specific pixels on a screen changing.

There’s a beautiful invitation to learn and contribute baked into a world where each command is fully deterministic and spec-ed out.

Yes, there have always been poorly documented black boxes, but I thought the goal was to minimize those.

People don’t understand how much is going to be lost if that goal is abandoned.

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1. whartung ◴[] No.45057729[source]
"Computers are deterministic!"

If I wanted to plumb together badly documented black boxes, I'd have become an EE.

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2. _mu ◴[] No.45058085[source]
Underrated comment - computers can be decidedly non-deterministic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastability_(electronics)