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gitremote ◴[28 Aug 25 13:44 UTC] No.45052117[source]▶

These numbers are off.

> $20/month ChatGPT Pro user: Heavy daily usage but token-limited

ChatGPT Pro is $200/month and Sam Altman already admitted that OpenAI is losing money from Pro subscriptions in January 2025:

"insane thing: we are currently losing money on openai pro subscriptions!

people use it much more than we expected."

- Sam Altman, January 6, 2025

https://xcancel.com/sama/status/1876104315296968813

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AstroBen ◴[28 Aug 25 14:30 UTC] No.45052618[source]▶

>>45052117 #

I just straight up don't trust him

Saying that is the equivalent of him saying "our product is really valuable! use it!"

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1. GoatInGrey ◴[28 Aug 25 19:16 UTC] No.45055909[source]▶

>>45052618 #

That is my interpretation, that it's a marketing attempt. A form of "The value of our product is so good that it's losing us money. It's practically the Costco hotdog combo!".

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Are OpenAI and Anthropic losing money on inference?