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gitremote ◴[28 Aug 25 13:44 UTC] No.45052117[source]▶

These numbers are off.

> $20/month ChatGPT Pro user: Heavy daily usage but token-limited

ChatGPT Pro is $200/month and Sam Altman already admitted that OpenAI is losing money from Pro subscriptions in January 2025:

"insane thing: we are currently losing money on openai pro subscriptions!

people use it much more than we expected."

- Sam Altman, January 6, 2025

https://xcancel.com/sama/status/1876104315296968813

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1. davedx ◴[28 Aug 25 16:03 UTC] No.45053859[source]▶

>>45052117 #

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45053741

> The most likely situation is a power law curve where the vast majority of users don't use it much at all and the top 10% of users account for 90% of the usage.

That'll be the Pro users. My wife uses her regular sub very lightly, most people will be like her...

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