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pornel ◴[] No.45043480[source]
Those who TL;DRd - it's for the factory, not the cars!

Old EV batteries are great for energy storage. A worse weight-to-capacity ratio doesn't matter for batteries sitting on the ground. A battery that holds only 70% of its original capacity is considered worn-out for EVs (and even replaced under warranty), but grid storage isn't driving anywhere, so any capacity left is still useful.

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londons_explore ◴[] No.45044042[source]
If you take car EV batteries and use them for stationary storage when past end-of-life, the fire risk becomes fairly substantial because EV batteries often have a little water ingress, physical damage etc.

It can be solved by isolating each battery in its own steel box, but that gets fairly expensive fairly fast.

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carlhjerpe ◴[] No.45044211[source]
How much distance does one pack realistically need to not cascade? Honestly I can't imagine any more than half a meter since air is an extremely good insulator. Just make sure the fire can't crawl across though cable insulation?

I've personally set RC lipo on fire with the wood-nail-hammer technique and while the fire out of the pack is intense I can't imagine it igniting another pack.

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1. crote ◴[] No.45049468{3}[source]
Don't forget about radiant heat! There's a pretty much perfect insulator between the sun and Earth conduction-wise, yet it is still pretty cozy up here.
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2. carlhjerpe ◴[] No.45050582[source]
That's fair, I don't know how to calculate this but my naive assumption is a burning pack won't radiate enough to combust something 1 meter away if there's circulating air around.