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ballenf ◴[] No.45039355[source]
Can someone who's worked in an org this large help me understand how this happens? They surely do testing against major browsers and saw the performance issues before releasing. Is there really someone who gave the green light?
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whstl ◴[] No.45039516[source]
The way it works in tech today is that there are three groups:

- Project managers putting constant pressure on developers to deliver as fast as possible. It doesn't even matter if velocity will be lost in the future, or if the company might lose customers, or even if it breaks the law.

- Developers pushing back on things that can backfire and burning political capital and causing constant burnout. And when things DO backfire, the developer is to blame for letting it happen and not having pushed it more in the first place.

- Developers who learned that the only way to win is by not giving a single fuck, and just trucking on through the tasks without much thought.

This might sound highly cynical, but unfortunately this is what it has become.

Developers are way too isolated from the end result, and accountability is non-existent for PMs who isolate devs from the result, because "isolating developers" is seem as their only job.

EDIT: This is a cultural problem that can't be solved by individual contributors or by middle management without raising hell and putting a target on their backs. Only cultural change enforced by C-Levels is able to change this, but this is *not* in the interest of most CEOs or CTOs.

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veverkap ◴[] No.45043290[source]
This is shockingly accurate - are you a Hubber? :)
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1. swiftcoder ◴[] No.45049156[source]
It's pretty much the same in every tech firm. When I worked at Facebook this same dynamic was playing out really badly. Amazon on the other hand had somewhat greater resilience against it due to a much tighter feedback loop with the c-suite.