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The Deletion of Docker.io/Bitnami

(community.broadcom.com)
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MathiasPius ◴[] No.45048784[source]
Between the VMware licensing changes and this, it looks like Broadcom is making a serious play at dethroning Oracle as the most evil software vendor.

It's a shame that competition for this position has been ramping up lately.

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1. elephantum ◴[] No.45048813[source]
So, are they evil because they decided to stop sponsoring free network egress?
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2. systemswizard ◴[] No.45048871[source]
Broadcom is deciding to host it on their own registry and bear the associated cost of doing so. Not sure what this has to do with sponsoring network egress
3. buzer ◴[] No.45048913[source]
The images are currently in Docker Hub. If $9/month (or $15, not 100% sure if $9 includes organizations) to keep those images available is too much for Bitnami I'm sure there are many organizations who wouldn't mind paying that bill for them (possibly even Docker Hub itself).
4. runamok ◴[] No.45048929[source]
Does said network egress cost $50k per user?
5. MathiasPius ◴[] No.45049138[source]
Others have already provided good answers. I wouldn't classify it as evil if all they did was to stop maintaining the images & charts, I recognise how much time, effort and money that takes. Companies and open source developers alike are free to say "We can no longer work on this".

The evil part is in outright breaking people's systems, in violation of the implicit agreement established by having something be public in the first place.

I know Broadcom inherited Bitnami as part of an acquisition and legally have no obligation to do anything, but ethically (which is why they are evil, not necessarily criminal) they absolutely have a duty to minimise the damage, which is 100% within their power & budget as others have pointed out.

And this is before you even consider all the work unpaid contributors have put into Bitnami over the years (myself included).

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6. 7bit ◴[] No.45049266[source]
that's an assumption, but Broadcom is most likely using open source software in all of their apps. So they do have a moral to also give something back. So just saying it's fair that they don't want to provide something for free anymore isn't really all that fair.
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7. tetha ◴[] No.45049359[source]
It's also entirely fine if they delete these images to me. But not with a week of time frame, as originally intended.

And sure, we can go ahead and discuss how this being free incurs no SLAs or guarantees. That's correct, but does not mean that such a short time frame is both rude and not a high quality of offering a service. If I look at how long it would take us to cancel a customer contract and off-board those...

And apparently it costs $9 to host this for another month? Sheesh.

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8. MathiasPius ◴[] No.45049979{3}[source]
Oh don't get me wrong, my claim is that they are not even clearing the absolute lowest bar when it comes to their stewardship of the Bitnami repositories: Do no harm.
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10. luma ◴[] No.45050552{3}[source]
Expecting moral behavior from Hock Tan isn’t likely to pan out.
11. 999900000999 ◴[] No.45050816{3}[source]
If your doing anything serious you should have artifactory setup.
12. immibis ◴[] No.45051571[source]
> The evil part is in outright breaking people's systems, in violation of the implicit agreement established by having something be public in the first place.

Something, something, sticking your hand in a lawnmower and expecting it not to be cut off.

Broadcom is second only to Oracle.

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13. snickerdoodle12 ◴[] No.45051743{3}[source]
would you mind getting in your time machine and telling me this before broadcomm acquired bitnami?