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1. hliyan ◴[] No.45047499[source]
The last time this topic was on HN, some mentioned that many indigenous people had similar techniques with drum beats, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfLC5iudQ0 (this is a modern rendition though).
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2. culi ◴[] No.45047564[source]
See also: sweat baths. Surprisingly wide spread in practice. Not only is it practiced throughout most of North America (Turtle Island) but is also a feature of Kabbalistic (Jewish mysiticist) practices. Mandingo practices might be an African analogue.

(yes, they can lead to psychedelic experiences)

EDIT: here's a paper on Kabbalah and sweat lodges https://www.academia.edu/37069129/The_Kabbalah_of_the_Sweatl...

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3. 0_____0 ◴[] No.45047629[source]
Mandinka
4. vishnugupta ◴[] No.45048039[source]
Somewhat related you may want to check out the works of Manvir Singh [1]. He is an anthropologist who has done extensive work in Shamanism, even authored a book.

A necessary condition to be a shaman is to enter altered sensory state and Shamanism is prevalent among indigenous peoples across the world.

[1] https://www.manvir.org/

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5. 3RTB297 ◴[] No.45048286[source]
Michael Harner's earlier work was in the same vein. He even released a record back in the 70's with drum beats that fit the typical shamanic rates he saw in use.
6. aradox66 ◴[] No.45048695[source]
Seidenberg's work is really interesting but he's definitely not arguing that sweat lodges are a part of historical Jewish practice. He's doing a compare/contrast.
7. AlecSchueler ◴[] No.45049365[source]
Indigenous to where?
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8. dude250711 ◴[] No.45049728[source]
To the planet.
9. Cthulhu_ ◴[] No.45051106[source]
I think most modern people can relate, getting into the zone listening to music. But one difference is intent and attention.