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pornel ◴[] No.45043480[source]
Those who TL;DRd - it's for the factory, not the cars!

Old EV batteries are great for energy storage. A worse weight-to-capacity ratio doesn't matter for batteries sitting on the ground. A battery that holds only 70% of its original capacity is considered worn-out for EVs (and even replaced under warranty), but grid storage isn't driving anywhere, so any capacity left is still useful.

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londons_explore ◴[] No.45044042[source]
If you take car EV batteries and use them for stationary storage when past end-of-life, the fire risk becomes fairly substantial because EV batteries often have a little water ingress, physical damage etc.

It can be solved by isolating each battery in its own steel box, but that gets fairly expensive fairly fast.

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carlhjerpe ◴[] No.45044211[source]
How much distance does one pack realistically need to not cascade? Honestly I can't imagine any more than half a meter since air is an extremely good insulator. Just make sure the fire can't crawl across though cable insulation?

I've personally set RC lipo on fire with the wood-nail-hammer technique and while the fire out of the pack is intense I can't imagine it igniting another pack.

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1. lazide ◴[] No.45045492[source]
Eh, the math is probably pretty different with massive quantities of packs in racks.

I’m imaging every firefighter I’ve ever known suddenly having the hair stand up on the back of their necks.