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465 points susanthenerd | 1 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.314s | source
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nrp ◴[26 Aug 25 15:35 UTC] No.45028012[source]▶
I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
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Deuter8 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:39 UTC] No.45028056[source]▶
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops.

Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

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iknowstuff ◴[26 Aug 25 15:49 UTC] No.45028200[source]▶
I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol

How are they slower/impossible?

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jayd16 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:55 UTC] No.45028289[source]▶
I assume some gestures are simply not possible. Like click-to-drag and scroll simultaneously. Not every app handles gutter-hover-to-scroll in a usable way. On a mouse or a pad with buttons, you can keep the left click held down and scroll with the wheel or gesture. Uni-pads make this impossible.
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panzerboiler ◴[26 Aug 25 16:11 UTC] No.45028533[source]▶
You assume it wrong. You can click-to-drag and scroll simultaneously without issues on an Apple trackpad.
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jayd16 ◴[26 Aug 25 17:57 UTC] No.45030030[source]▶
"Without issues" is a stretch. You need to use two hands or be skilled with one. Its trivial on a mouse or a pad with a discrete buttons.

But ok, what about just dragging a long distance where you would normally lift the mouse or finger? Is there some hidden gesture for this? Maybe once your initial drag finger hits the edge you need to use two more to do a move gesture? But I've seen that trigger scroll and/or pinch-to-zoom.

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1. samtheDamned ◴[27 Aug 25 20:55 UTC] No.45045137[source]▶
This reminded me of a feature in windows where if you were dragging something and reached the end of the touchpad, the cursor would continue on the same trajectory as long as you kept your finger at the edge of the touchpad. Then you could overshoot a little so you could bring your fingers back to the middle to regain maneuverability. I haven't missed it since I switched to linux but now that I'm thinking about it that was a very nice touch (no pun intended).