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I Am An AI Hater

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443 points BallsInIt | 26 comments | | HN request time: 1.098s | source | bottom
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danielbln ◴[] No.45044286[source]
Yet it is here to stay, won't go away and even if it won't get any better at the useful things it does, it is useful. The externalities are real, some can be removed, some mitigated. If you're a hater and a human, then you don't have to mitigate anything, of course.

Me, I hate the externalities, but I love the thing. I want to use my own AI, hyper optimized and efficient and private. It would mitigate a lot. Maybe some day.

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1. yifanl ◴[] No.45044555[source]
> Yet it is here to stay, won't go away

Source for this claim? Are you still using Groupon?

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2. sshine ◴[] No.45044611[source]
People are.

Just like crypto.

Just look at the bitcoin hashrate; it’s a steep curve.

3. brokencode ◴[] No.45044666[source]
You must be living on a different planet if you think the adoption and societal impact Groupon was ever remotely comparable to AI.
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4. yifanl ◴[] No.45044719[source]
I assure you as someone working FoH at the time, Groupon's impact on me was far greater than AI ever could be.
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5. dpoloncsak ◴[] No.45044746[source]
The last time we saw a bet from Wall St like we are seeing with AI, was when they bet on the internet.

Do you still use the internet?

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6. hex4def6 ◴[] No.45044805[source]
Of course it's here to stay. There are models that are --right-now-- great at text-to-speech, speech-to-text, categorization, image recognition, etc etc. Even if progress stopped now, these models would be useful in their current state.

Your argument could just as easily be applied to social networks ("are you still using friendster?") or e-commerce ("are you still using pets.com?). GPT3 or Kimi K2 or Mistral is going to become obsolete at some point, but that's because the succeeding models are going to be fundamentally better. That doesn't mean that they weren't themselves fit for a certain task.

7. sindriava ◴[] No.45044838[source]
Comparing a general technology (AI) to a specific company (Groupon) is a category error. To your point coupons still exist and people use them and Anthropic might not exist in 2 years while AI will.
8. satisfice ◴[] No.45044873[source]
I still use the Internet. The Internet is also a technology that undermines society.
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9. turzmo ◴[] No.45045168[source]
Maybe a better generalization, the last time [bubble] happened, do you still use [bubble]?

Depends on the nature of the bubble, doesn't it?

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10. brokencode ◴[] No.45045385{3}[source]
I’m talking about how it impacts society in general, not you specifically. Also, I don’t think you appreciate how deeply AI will affect your life in the future.

The next time you get a CT for example, it might be an AI system that finds a lung nodule and saves your life.

Or for a negative possibility, consider how deepfakes could seriously degrade politics and the media landscape.

There are massive potential upsides and downsides to AI that will almost certainly impact you more than a coupon company.

11. TeMPOraL ◴[] No.45045529{3}[source]
Indeed. Therefore, the past bubbles most similar to AI are the one around Internet, and the earlier one around electricity.
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12. petralithic ◴[] No.45045612{3}[source]
You are free not to use it if that is what you believe.
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13. Timwi ◴[] No.45045937{4}[source]
You are also free to give away all your money and not participate in capitalism if you wish.

Wait, are you sure?

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14. petralithic ◴[] No.45046453{5}[source]
Yes, if you don't want to participate in capitalism, you're free to live in the woods and homestead.
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15. satisfice ◴[] No.45047058{6}[source]
No, you are not free to do that. There are billions of humans on the planet. We all can't "live in the forest" without immediately destroying the forests.

I wish you'd try thinking for at least five seconds before commenting. If you are here, then you must be smart-- so, use your brain, man.

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16. _Algernon_ ◴[] No.45048862{6}[source]
https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-...
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17. Gud ◴[] No.45049424{5}[source]
Not really an option, is it? Point me to the forest where this is allowed
18. jacquesm ◴[] No.45049726{7}[source]
> If you are here, then you must be smart

Citation needed...

19. Jensson ◴[] No.45050614{4}[source]
> the past bubbles most similar to AI are the one around Internet

I'd say crypto is more similar, the internet and telephones and rails and roads and electricity is around connective infrastructure, AI and crypto is around compute. Connective infrastructure is almost always useful, local computed things is harder to motivate hype for because its usefulness isn't as apparent as adding more connectivity.

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20. petralithic ◴[] No.45050746{7}[source]
Who said we all? If you specifically don't want to live in a capitalist society, you don't have to, there are lots of homesteaders even in the US who live off the land, you can be like them. I'm not being sarcastic, it's an actual suggestion.
21. petralithic ◴[] No.45050753{7}[source]
I see this meme often but it's true, there's lots of options, not just one society that you cannot leave. Lots of countries on earth that one can move to, as people immigrate already.
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22. dpoloncsak ◴[] No.45050902{5}[source]
Crypto STILL hasn’t seen widespread user adoption like ChatGPT has.

My CIO never asked about blockchain technology, but he sure as hell is asking about AI

23. _Algernon_ ◴[] No.45051390{8}[source]
Talk about missing the point…
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24. petralithic ◴[] No.45052470{9}[source]
More like just presenting a meme isn't a real argument, so there's not really any point you're making to miss.
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25. _Algernon_ ◴[] No.45054148{10}[source]
If you practiced some media literacy, you'd realize that (a) there is a point to that meme and (b) that there is a reason why you are on the receiving end of it.
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26. petralithic ◴[] No.45055402{11}[source]
Just saying it doesn't make it so. I can post similar memes and say "haha that's you" while pointing at you and citing your lack of media literacy when you disagree, that doesn't mean it's a cogent argument. Maybe there is an argument in that meme, but you're not specifying it and therefore I will not take it as a serious comment.