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I Am An AI Hater

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443 points BallsInIt | 9 comments | 27 Aug 25 19:10 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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danielbln ◴[27 Aug 25 19:51 UTC] No.45044286[source]▶
Yet it is here to stay, won't go away and even if it won't get any better at the useful things it does, it is useful. The externalities are real, some can be removed, some mitigated. If you're a hater and a human, then you don't have to mitigate anything, of course.

Me, I hate the externalities, but I love the thing. I want to use my own AI, hyper optimized and efficient and private. It would mitigate a lot. Maybe some day.

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Mallowram[dead post] ◴[27 Aug 25 19:55 UTC] No.45044341[source]▶
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1. danielbln ◴[27 Aug 25 20:01 UTC] No.45044417[source]▶
AI is information.
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2. jerhewet ◴[27 Aug 25 20:08 UTC] No.45044507[source]▶
AI is "put Elmer's glue on your pizza so the ingredients won't slide off". AI is "three B's in blueberry".

Garbage in, garbage out. Which will always be the case when your AI is scraping stuff off of random pages and commentary on the internet.

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3. zwnow ◴[27 Aug 25 20:10 UTC] No.45044539[source]▶
Disinformation with more and more propaganda due to being vulnerable to bad actors. There's already evidence on people spreading propaganda through LLMs.
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4. danielbln ◴[27 Aug 25 20:14 UTC] No.45044592[source]▶
Definitely, AI can be used for terrible things. Doesn't change that it's information and won't go away.
5. Mallowram ◴[27 Aug 25 20:17 UTC] No.45044626[source]▶
Even Shannon knew the limits of information late in career. AI is not information, it's signaling. And it embeds without decipherment or segregating dominance, bias, control, manipulation. The dark matter of language we can't extract.

"Shannon warned in 1956 that information theory “has perhaps been ballooned to an importance beyond its actual accomplishments” and that information theory is “not necessarily relevant to such fields as psychology, economics, and other social sciences.” Shannon concluded: “The subject of information theory has certainly been sold, if not oversold.” [Claude E. Shannon, “The Bandwagon,” IRE Transactions on Information Theory, Vol. 2, No. 1 (March 1956), p. 3.]"

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6. s1mplicissimus ◴[27 Aug 25 20:56 UTC] No.45045156[source]▶
If only it were garbage in, garbage out - that would be solvable by better training data. But it's much worse than that, because even if you'd only feed it good stuff, the output would still deteriorate.

pointing index finger at imaginary baloon: pfffffffffft

7. justsomejew ◴[27 Aug 25 21:50 UTC] No.45045763[source]▶
I think you are a real person, still you sound like a broken record.. "disinformation..", "propaganda".. "bad actors"..

You are the "bad actors", pumpkin. Worse than the other ones.

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8. zwnow ◴[28 Aug 25 07:35 UTC] No.45049488{3}[source]▶
So we are just ignoring this issue?
9. lif ◴[28 Aug 25 16:04 UTC] No.45053860[source]▶
Signaling? That is correct. Also, am willing to place a _very_ long bet that clay tablets will be around longer.