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broker354690 ◴[] No.45033596[source]
Why isn't OpenAI criminally liable for this?

Last I checked:

-Signals emitted by a machine at the behest of a legal person intended to be read/heard by another legal person are legally classified as 'speech'.

-ChatGPT is just a program like Microsoft Word and not a legal person. OpenAI is a legal person, though.

-The servers running ChatGPT are owned by OpenAI.

-OpenAI willingly did business with this teenager, letting him set up an account in exchange for money. This business is a service under the control of OpenAI, not a product like a knife or gun. OpenAI intended to transmit speech to this teenager.

-A person can be liable (civilly? criminally?) for inciting another person's suicide. It is not protected speech to persuade someone into suicide.

-OpenAI produced some illegal speech and sent it to a suicidal teenager, who then committed suicide.

If Sam Altman stabbed the kid to death, it wouldn't matter if he did it on accident. Sam Altman would be at fault. You wouldn't sue or arrest the knife he used to do the deed.

Any lawyers here who can correct me, seeing as I am not one? It seems clear as day to me that OpenAI/Sam Altman directly encouraged a child to kill themselves.

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VirusNewbie ◴[] No.45036119[source]
Is Google responsible if someone searches for a way to kill themselves, finds the means, and does it?

What about the ISP, that actually transferred the bits?

What about the forum, that didn't take down the post?

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Towaway69 ◴[] No.45036733[source]
What if Google is responsible?

What if the tech industry, instead of just “interrupting” various industries, would also take the responsibilities of this interruptions.

After all, if I asked my doctor for methods of killing myself, that doctor would most certainly have a moral if not legal responsibility. But if that doctor is a machine with software then there isn't the same responsibility? Why?

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killerstorm ◴[] No.45037001[source]
"Google is responsible" is equivalent to "let's burn bad books".
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Towaway69 ◴[] No.45039163[source]
Ok why do we humans have to take responsibility?

Why can't I declare myself to be a "company" (which is only responsible to shareholders) and then never take resosibility for my actions? Why are we humans burdened down with moral responsibility while companies can jerk that responsibility because .... well because they are a "company".

After all, companies are made of what? People. People make companies and people take responsibility but somewhere along the line, these responsibilities can be dumped.

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