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zackmorris ◴[] No.45039765[source]
GitHub moved to a JavaScript rendering mode almost as soon as Microsoft bought it. Previously, I had been able to browse it with JavaScript disabled on my 2011 Mac Mini which Apple stopped allowing upgrades on past macOS 10.13. So even if I enable JavaScript, I can no longer browse GitHub, because they didn't bother to make their build compatible with browser versions as old as mine.

It's hard to know which member of the duopoly is more guilty for breaking GitHub for me, but I find that blaming both often guarantees success.

I could like, buy a new computer and stuff. But you know, the whole Turing complete thing feels like a lie in the age of planned obsolescence. So web standards are too.

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dylan604 ◴[] No.45040845[source]
> on my 2011 Mac Mini which Apple stopped allowing upgrades on past macOS 10.13

I know some people feel like Apple is aggressive in this respect, but that's an 8 year old version of a browser. That's like taking off all of the locks on your house, leaving the doors and windows open all while expecting your house to never have uninvited guests.

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makeitdouble ◴[] No.45041210[source]
But Apple is also the one locking Safari to the OS, IE style. Having to buy a new machine to get the latest and secure version of a browser is a pretty heavy requirement.
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1. w0m ◴[] No.45041503[source]
or use a supported OS (linux, or hilariously probably Windows), or install a still-suppored browser (I'd guess Firefox likely still runs latest on there).

I'd put it on the end user for not updating software on 15 y/o hardware and still expecting the outside world to interact cleanly.

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2. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45041925[source]
> hilariously probably Windows

That's probably true.

> 15 y/0

It's a matter of expectations, many laptops that old still work decently enough with a refreshed battery. Funnily enough win10 was released 15 ago, and one can still get support for it for at least another 3 years until 2028, even on the customer license.

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3. Autummata ◴[] No.45042977[source]
W10 was released 10 years ago, not 15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history
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4. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45045993{3}[source]
Sorry, I just have pattern matched the 2015 release year instead of properly counting.