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CafeRacer ◴[] No.45038335[source]
It truly feels like Jira.
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1. Nextgrid ◴[] No.45039628[source]
It’s afflicted by the same disease: overuse of JavaScript and the need to give JS developers something to do.

If you actually load up a ~2015 version of Jira on today’s hardware it’s basically instant.

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2. slipperydippery ◴[] No.45039846[source]
I was reminded how fucked the modern web is a couple years ago when I encountered a so-fast-it-felt-like-local-static-html website dashboard that could have been a "web app", but wasn't.

It was being hosted on another continent. It was written in PHP. It was rendering server-side with just some light JS on my end.

That used to be the norm.

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3. hnfong ◴[] No.45039980[source]
When you mention that you're used to rendering HTML on the server side and don't use React on the frontend to do things, modern web people just look at you like you committed a crime or something (VanillaJS! the horror! Those thirty lines of Javascript would be unmaintainable without a deployment tool!!!!).

It's really hard to fight the trend especially in larger orgs.

4. endemic ◴[] No.45039997[source]
Haha I used to explain the complexity of a previous employer's tech stack that way: they had all these devs and they needed to do _something_!