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DiabloD3 ◴[] No.45028126[source]
Kinda wish you guys didn't have an Nvidia product at all. It's only really useful for Windows users, but openly hostile and offensive to Linux desktop users.
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Night_Thastus ◴[] No.45028188[source]
Like it or not, Nvidia is the dominant player in the GPU space. They have objectively the most powerful GPUs and the best support for development (CUDA).

It would be cutting out a massive chunk of Framework's potential customers to not even offer Nvidia GPUs.

I don't like Nvidia at all, they're a scummy company. But just offering their products as an option is not "openly hostile and offensive" to Linux users. That's a bizarre take.

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DiabloD3 ◴[] No.45036902[source]
Not really.

Until modern times, Intel was the largest GPU manufacture, unless you include phones, then it was Qualcomm.

Now it's AMD, between computers, consoles, and the datacenter.

DGPUs for the desktop aren't really all that relevant for either AMD and NV's bottom lines, they're not major sellers. Switch sales also aren't enough to compete with combined Xbox/Playstation sales.

A lot of claims of NV's superiority is just marketing smoke and mirrors.

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1. account42 ◴[] No.45039243{3}[source]
NV's real superiority is developer market share. Too many things are developed for Nvidia first with other options an afterthought if supported at all.
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2. DiabloD3 ◴[] No.45057640[source]
Most things are developed for standardized APIs, not any specific vendor.

For things that are hyperoptimized for a specific vendor, it is usually for AMD, not Nvidia, because most of that time spent optimizing is not done for enterprise compute (as _very little_ optimization is done, companies just buy more GPUs instead of writing better software, under the mistaken belief that developer time is more expensive than GPU TCO) but for game engines.

Game engines that are highly optimized for hardware are doing it for the consoles, both of which are AMD.

The only thing superior about NV is their marketing department.