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podgietaru ◴[] No.45032841[source]
I have looked suicide in the eyes before. And reading the case file for this is absolutely horrific. He wanted help. He was heading in the direction of help, and he was stopped from getting it.

He wanted his parents to find out about his plan. I know this feeling. It is the clawing feeling of knowing that you want to live, despite feeling like you want to die.

We are living in such a horrific moment. We need these things to be legislated. Punished. We need to stop treating them as magic. They had the tools to prevent this. They had the tools to stop the conversation. To steer the user into helpful avenues.

When I was suicidal, I googled methods. And I got the number of a local hotline. And I rang it. And a kind man talked me down. And it potentially saved my life. And I am happier, now. I live a worthwhile life, now.

But at my lowest.. An AI Model designed to match my tone and be sycophantic to my every whim. It would have killed me.

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itvision ◴[] No.45038393[source]
> We are living in such a horrific moment. We need these things to be legislated. Punished. We need to stop treating them as magic. They had the tools to prevent this. They had the tools to stop the conversation. To steer the user into helpful avenues.

No, no, no and no.

ChatGPT wasn't the source of his desire to end his life, nor was it the means to do it. It was a "person" to talk to, since he had no such real people in his life.

Let's absolve everyone else of blame and hold ChatGPT solely responsible. Yeah, right.

Not his genes, upbringing, parents, peers, or school — it's just ChatGPT. Your own attempt at ending your life hasn't seemingly taught you anything.

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1. spacechild1 ◴[] No.45038592[source]
> it's just ChatGPT.

Where did they claim that?