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erulabs ◴[] No.45033813[source]
Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”.

Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

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dvt ◴[] No.45033929[source]
So awesome, I hope to have kids one day precisely for this reason! One of my fondest memories is my dad quenching my curiosity (with a drawing, to boot!) of how satellite dishes work when I was 6 or 7.
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monero-xmr ◴[] No.45034739[source]
My kids learning to ride a bike - the moment you release your hand for the first time and they just go and go. When my son learned checkers, and then when he beat me the first time. When my daughter told her first original joke at a family dinner and everyone died laughing.

The moments truly never stop. Every single day they amaze and surprise you, fill you with so much love and joy and appreciation.

One time Bill Gates was asked what gave him joy and without missing a beat he said his children. Nothing is greater, nothing gives you more meaning, nothing is more ultimate than the sacrifice and patience and wonder and fulfillment of having children.

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bombcar ◴[] No.45035078[source]
There's a moment of abject horror, fascination, wonder, surprise, and pride when you suddenly recognize yourself in your children; a moment, a word, even just a holding of the head and you're staring into a mirror ...
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monero-xmr ◴[] No.45035110[source]
It is a complete shift in world view. In BC (before children) you lived one way, then in AD (after delivery) you live another. Complete and utter change in priorities, outlook, experience, meaning, fundamental shift that those without children cannot understand
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doug713705 ◴[] No.45035737[source]
And people with children cannot understand what it is to live a whole life in full freedom. I'm over 50 years old and I fully love my life as it is and have never regretted my choice of not having children (and never will).

Not that my choice is suitable for everybody, but the most common choice is not suitable for everybody either.

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monero-xmr ◴[] No.45035922[source]
Hard disagree, I lived my life without children, the hedonism and lack of responsibility. And you can live this until death. And I didn’t discount such a life in my writing. I stated that having children fundamentally changes you, in a way you will never understand
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TheOtherHobbes ◴[] No.45037336{3}[source]
Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids.

It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy?

The evidence says it's very unlikely.

My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

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1. close04 ◴[] No.45038400{4}[source]
> Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids.

Compared to what? We're living in some of the best times humanity as a whole ever had. Deciding en-masse to not have kids is the irresponsible thing because it literally condemns humanity to extinction and creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're cursing the world because you stubbed your toe. Social media inflicted this kind of feeling a lot over the last couple of decades.

> but will their lives be happy?

You'd have to ask them. Humans overwhelmingly choose to live so you could conclude that they prefer existing over the alternative. Happiness is very relative and you'd have a hard time defining it even for yourself, let alone for your hypothetical unborn child.

> The evidence says it's very unlikely.

There's absolutely no evidence to support anything you said. It's your personal preference and you're entitled to it. Why don't you own your choice instead of putting it on fictitious evidence that your unborn child will be unhappy?

> My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being

Whatever you pick you're making that choice for you, not for them.

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2. bombcar ◴[] No.45039860[source]
And at least in my experience, children do not get existential despair about the state of the world until adulthood, unless it is given to them from outside forces.

Children don't know the world exists beyond their town until they're instructed on it!