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themgt ◴[] No.45026515[source]
I’ll be honest: there is a very good chance this won’t work .... At the same time, the China concerns are real, Intel Foundry needs a guarantee of existence to even court customers, and there really is no coming back from an exit. There won’t be a startup to fill Intel’s place. The U.S. will be completely dependent on foreign companies for the most important products on earth, and while everything may seem fine for the next five, ten, or even fifteen years, the seeds of that failure will eventually sprout, just like those 2007 seeds sprouted for Intel over the last couple of years. The only difference is that the repercussions of this failure will be catastrophic not for the U.S.’s leading semiconductor company, but for the U.S. itself.

Very well argued. It's such a stunning dereliction the US let things get to this point. We were doing the "pivot to Asia" over a decade ago but no one thought to find TSMC on a map and ask whether Intel was driving itself into the dirt? "For want of a nail the kingdom was lost" but in this case the nail is like your entire metallurgical industry outsourced to the territory you plan on fighting over.

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JKCalhoun ◴[] No.45027671[source]
Perhaps then fabs should be considered important enough for the US then that a new entity, perhaps not unlike NASA, is created to create and run these.
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readthenotes1 ◴[] No.45027729[source]
NASA seems to outsource a lot. Would you like Boeing to create the fab next door to you? What could go wrong??
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rjsw ◴[] No.45027761[source]
You would still outsource running the fab to Intel, just have a government body overseeing it.
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chatmasta ◴[] No.45029481[source]
This won’t solve the biggest challenge/problem, which is lack of talent for staffing the fab. In Arizona they had to import a bunch of temp workers from Taiwan just to train the locals. We don’t have the skills. If you want to involve the government, maybe we should be training units of the military to make their own chips.
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1. luma ◴[] No.45033065{5}[source]
That’s the specific problem a well organized governmental body can address. Funding research through university and private R&D lab grants and spreading/licensing the knowledge to domestic companies. Fund grants for universities and scholarships to spread that further. Invest in multiple startups attacking the problem at different levels in the stack (semi manufacturing has a LOT of inputs).

There are loads of ways you can effectively steer an economy to stimulate growth while also meeting geopolitical needs through effective and liberal application of the national purse. DOGE seems to have different ideas about the value of such programs.