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onetimeusename ◴[] No.45029567[source]
The other day when the US's stake in Intel was announced, people assumed it was a political stunt. I suspected it was because of national security interests. The CHIPS act probably didn't get the result US Defense wanted quickly enough. Some details that were glossed over include that there was a chip shortage a few years ago as a result of COVID and TSMC supply chain disruptions that led to a shortage in electronics and automobiles even. This started to look like a national security interest back then.

Second, there is an AI race going on. US intelligence is taking it very seriously and views supremacy of our AI as very important. Recently, the US was pushing NVDA to start using Intel's foundry. I assume it's for national security reasons.

Finally, a couple of details from the Intel deal that were not widely discussed is that the US is taking a passive seat[1]

The government’s investment in Intel will be a passive ownership, with no Board representation or other governance or information rights. The government also agrees to vote with the Company’s Board of Directors on matters requiring shareholder approval, with limited exceptions.

There are also warrants being given whose status is based on Intel's foundry. That suggests the foundry was the interest all along.

[1]: https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1748/...

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scarface_74 ◴[] No.45029778[source]
The issue is that Intel manufacturing chips in the US wouldn’t have solved the chip problems with cars for instance.

What TSMC traditionally does is keep trailing edge fabs online that are fully depreciated and use those to produce chips that don’t need to be leading edge. It wouldn’t make sense to create a new fab for trailing edge chips.

Car manufacturers aren’t going to all of the sudden start using 2mm expensive chips for their cars.

Even for TVs, the BOM for the “smarts” need to be under $10.

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1. epolanski ◴[] No.45032836[source]
Modern cars are powering multiple (as in 3+) screens at the same time, including games, streams and videoconferencing.
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2. mrheosuper ◴[] No.45034843[source]
which can already be done with >7nm chip.
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3. epolanski ◴[] No.45036260[source]
Yes, everything we have out there can already be done on 28nm chips, that doesn't mean that the goal stays idle. And in a car you have hundreds of subsystems to control and monitor too.
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4. high_na_euv ◴[] No.45036932{3}[source]
What subsystem you mean?
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5. epolanski ◴[] No.45043063{4}[source]
Your infotainment tracks everything from temperatures, lighting, temperature, car asset, etc.