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A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in

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443 points jaredwiener | 5 comments | 26 Aug 25 14:15 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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drewbeck ◴[26 Aug 25 18:49 UTC] No.45030618[source]▶
Whenever people say that Apple is behind on AI, I think about stories like this. Is this the Siri people want? And if it is easy to prevent, why didn't OpenAI?

Some companies actually have a lot to lose if these things go off the rails and can't just 'move fast and break things' when those things are their customers, or the trust their customers have in them.

My hope is that OpenAI actually does have a lot to lose; my fear is that the hype and the sheer amount of capital behind them will make them immune from real repercussions.

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bigyabai ◴[26 Aug 25 21:06 UTC] No.45032337[source]▶
When people tell you that Apple is behind on AI, they mean money. Not AI features, not AI hardware, AI revenue. And Apple is behind on that - they've got the densest silicon in the world and still play second fiddle to Nvidia. Apple GPU designs aren't conducive to non-raster workloads, they fell behind pretty far by obsessing over a less-profitable consumer market.

For whatever it's worth, I also hope that OpenAI can take a fall and set an example for any other businesses that recoup their model. But I also know that's not how justice works here in America. When there's money to be made, the US federal government will happily ignore the abuses to prop up American service industries.

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srb788 ◴[26 Aug 25 21:13 UTC] No.45032414[source]▶
Dude why does everything have to be about money?

Why don't we celebrate Apple for having actual human values? I have a deep problem with many humans who just don't get it.

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1. bigyabai ◴[26 Aug 25 21:18 UTC] No.45032458[source]▶
Buddy, Tim Cook wasn't hired for his human values. He was hired because he could stomach suicide nets at Foxconn and North Korean slaves working in iPhone factories. He was hired because he can be friends with Donald Trump while America aids-and-abets a genocide and turns a blind eye to NSO Group. He was hired because he'd be willing to sell out the iPhone, iTunes and Mac for software services at the first chance he got. The last bit of "humanity" left Apple when Woz walked out the door.

If you ever thought Apple was prioritizing human values over moneymaking, you were completely duped by their marketing. There is no principle, not even human life, that Apple values above moneymaking.

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2. nebula8804 ◴[26 Aug 25 22:44 UTC] No.45033274[source]▶
The suicide nets started under Steve Jobs

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOu50HaEvs

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3. drewbeck ◴[27 Aug 25 00:02 UTC] No.45033850[source]▶
I post this not for you directly, who has made up your mind completely, but for anyone else who might be interested in this question.

"Tim Cook, was asked at the annual shareholder meeting by the NCPPR, the conservative finance group, to disclose the costs of Apple’s energy sustainability programs, and make a commitment to doing only those things that were profitable.

Mr. Cook replied --with an uncharacteristic display of emotion--that a return on investment (ROI) was not the primary consideration on such issues. "When we work on making our devices accessible by the blind," he said, "I don't consider the bloody ROI." It was the same thing for environmental issues, worker safety, and other areas that don’t have an immediate profit. The company does "a lot of things for reasons besides profit motive. We want to leave the world better than we found it.""

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2014/03/07/why-tim...

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4. totetsu ◴[27 Aug 25 08:09 UTC] No.45036781[source]▶
Maybe openAI should be giving nets out to their users too.
5. bigyabai ◴[27 Aug 25 19:04 UTC] No.45043660[source]▶
"Deliver teary-eyed defense of your useless self-conducted audit" is probably the #1 job requirement for a marketing professional like Cook.

If you're fully bought-into the rube who's handing Donald Trump a gold placard, then boy have I got some bridges to sell you...