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465 points susanthenerd | 2 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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9x39 ◴[26 Aug 25 16:49 UTC] No.45029107[source]▶
Anyone using Framework for a daily driver that can compare to an M-series Macbook? Specifically, battery life on your OS. Does anything compare to a MBP these days?

From a value proposition, it seems good. Our group definitely goes through keyboards and mainboards from spilled tea at least annually it seems, but AppleCare is just a no-brainer, and away we go.

I still drive on my original M1 at home without complaint, and use my M3 at work. Anyone have the early Frameworks still in daily use? How are they?

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1. tomwheeler ◴[26 Aug 25 19:14 UTC] No.45030918[source]▶
I have an M2 Max MBP for work and a Framework 16 for home.

Build quality of the MBP is better. The machine feels more solid. The battery life is better, although to be fair, I run Linux on the Framework so the hardware itself isn't the only difference.

The Framework 16 wins hands-down when it comes to ports, one of my biggest pain points with any Apple laptop in the last 10 years. It has six of them and I can mostly arrange them according to my needs. In the rare cases where I plug it into an external monitor, I swap out one of the USB ports for an HDMI port. If I'm using more older devices than normal, I replace the USB-C ports with USB-A ports. I say "mostly" here because not all ports work in all positions.

The repairability and openness of the Framework laptop were the big draws for me and it delivered well on both counts. I'm happy with it.

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2. dangus ◴[26 Aug 25 22:03 UTC] No.45032902[source]▶
I don't think the build quality is very far off in any sort of terms that matter. Sure, Apple gives you a hollowed out block of aluminum and that's really nice and fancy but that doesn't really matter in any tangible way except feeling nice.

Framework has pretty minimal keyboard deck flex and other measures of build quality that actually impact usage. I think it fares better than a good chunk of PC competitors like the ThinkPad T14.

The only thing Framework really needs is a haptic trackpad and it'd be pretty much there in terms of the build feel. I also like how Apple puts the air intakes on the side rather than the bottom where they're frequently blocked by a lap or a soft surface.