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465 points susanthenerd | 3 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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vzaliva ◴[26 Aug 25 15:51 UTC] No.45028241[source]▶
The idea of Framework laptops sounds great! But I’m wondering: has anyone done an economic analysis comparing buying a Framework laptop a few years ago and gradually upgrading it, versus buying a similar popular brand laptop and just upgrading by getting a new model? I’m not trolling, I’m genuinely considering Framework as my next laptop.
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simpaticoder ◴[26 Aug 25 16:00 UTC] No.45028370[source]▶
I have a 1st gen Framework 13, Intel 11th gen CPU, running Ubuntu 24. It had a faulty design around the BIOS battery on the motherboard that I had to fix, and do some soldering on[1]. It's remarkable because they didn't say "Send the laptop in and we'll fix the design defect" they said, "First take a photo of the inside of the laptop to verify the serial number, then place an order, then do the repair yourself." This left a very bad taste in my mouth.

Additionally, and non-trivially, the laptop's battery life is not good, and it drains very quickly on suspend. I have taken to leaving it plugged in when not in use. This may be a Linux issue, but still.

I agree with you: the idea is a good one, but my experience with the company has been not good.

1 - https://guides.frame.work/Guide/RTC+Battery+Substitution+on+...

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1. starkparker ◴[26 Aug 25 17:14 UTC] No.45029490[source]▶
> Additionally, and non-trivially, the laptop's battery life is not good, and it drains very quickly on suspend

Drain on suspend in particular has largely been resolved on newer mainboards, firmware, and kernel updates, though I don't have an 11th-gen Intel and haven't run Ubuntu for a long time.

Kernel updates fixed this on my 12th-gen, firmware updates fixed it on my 7040, and my Ultra 7 155H never experienced this issue.

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2. simpaticoder ◴[26 Aug 25 17:35 UTC] No.45029745[source]▶
I'd happily accept a replacement motherboard. They aren't offering that though ,but I'd be impressed if they did.
3. olejorgenb ◴[26 Aug 25 21:40 UTC] No.45032659[source]▶
Which kernel upgrade? I have a dell precision with 12th Generation Intel i5-12500H, and it can't suspend properly. The suspend is even flaky and fails to suspend at all half the time. I run fedora with a very new kernel. It has a Nvidia GPU though. But then again - it is "Ubuntu certified"...