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465 points susanthenerd | 5 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.905s | source
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nrp ◴[26 Aug 25 15:35 UTC] No.45028012[source]▶
I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
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Deuter8 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:39 UTC] No.45028056[source]▶
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops.

Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

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Aurornis ◴[26 Aug 25 16:18 UTC] No.45028628[source]▶
> Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

Because it’s a variation of both the case and the internals that brings a higher failure rate, more dust ingress, more moving parts, and, most importantly, would rarely be chosen.

> They are so much slower,

They are objectively faster because you can click anywhere rather than moving a finger to a button or keeping one finger always on the button.

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1. MobiusHorizons ◴[26 Aug 25 16:29 UTC] No.45028812[source]▶
Some people used to use a separate finger like the thumb to click, which is pretty fast.
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2. chao- ◴[26 Aug 25 17:04 UTC] No.45029339[source]▶
This is my issue! All these years later, I am still not used to it, and I accidentally trigger multi-tap nonsense that I didn't intend because I am trying to click with my thumb.
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3. vile_wretch ◴[26 Aug 25 21:15 UTC] No.45032433[source]▶
My only point of reference is my MacBook Pro trackpad but I have no problem using my finger to move the cursor with my thumb resting on the trackpad and clicking. Not exactly the same because you lose some of the tactility of discrete buttons but it seems somewhat possible at least.
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4. JoshTriplett ◴[26 Aug 25 21:19 UTC] No.45032466[source]▶
Exactly. On ThinkPad touchpads with real hardware mouse buttons, I move on the touchpad with my pointer finger, and click with my middle finger.
5. MobiusHorizons ◴[26 Aug 25 23:30 UTC] No.45033615{3}[source]▶
Yeah, most of the non-apple implementations of this don’t work with using a second finger to click in my experience. They expect you to click with the pointing finger.