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465 points susanthenerd | 8 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.205s | source | bottom
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nrp ◴[26 Aug 25 15:35 UTC] No.45028012[source]▶
I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
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Deuter8 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:39 UTC] No.45028056[source]▶
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops.

Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

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iknowstuff ◴[26 Aug 25 15:49 UTC] No.45028200[source]▶
I’ve never missed having buttons on the macbook trackpad lol

How are they slower/impossible?

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1. ksec ◴[26 Aug 25 15:52 UTC] No.45028250[source]▶
Problem is none of the trackpad on PC are as good as the Apple trackpad
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2. kibwen ◴[26 Aug 25 16:12 UTC] No.45028537[source]▶
Hardware-wise, no, I've had plenty of PC trackpads that are better than Apple trackpads. But MacOS tends to have better built-in support for advanced gestures, which seem to be impossible on Windows and must be manually configured on Linux (but gives you enormous power once you do).
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3. nottorp ◴[26 Aug 25 16:13 UTC] No.45028562[source]▶
... it's a software problem afaik. The trackpad may be slightly better quality, but it's the drivers and the OS integration that make even some games playable without a mouse on Mac OS.

Don't think any one x86 laptop manufacturer can fix it.

4. dismalaf ◴[26 Aug 25 16:21 UTC] No.45028672[source]▶
GNOME on Wayland has lots of useful gestures out of the box. It's part of the DE though, so lots of DEs don't have them.
5. kzrdude ◴[26 Aug 25 16:27 UTC] No.45028777[source]▶
Using Gnome (for whatever reason), I'm used to two finger scrolling and three finger swiping just working by default.
6. danudey ◴[26 Aug 25 17:16 UTC] No.45029514[source]▶
Apple's palm rejection is also top tier, though other systems have been getting better. My current Dell seems fine so far, but at my last company the Dell I had was almost unusable due to my cursor just teleporting around my document randomly if my hands got too close to the trackpad (which is where they have to be to type).

Not sure if it's a hardware (Dell) or software (Ubuntu) improvement, but thank god.

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7. madmod ◴[26 Aug 25 18:20 UTC] No.45030300[source]▶
You could try putting a trackpad from a macbook into the framework. AFAIK the palm rejection is all in the firmware. The apple trackpad is USB. If you look at the code for Asahi Linux it could tell you more.
8. silon42 ◴[27 Aug 25 06:43 UTC] No.45036183{3}[source]▶
Even Apple's palm rejection is not good enough for me. I really hated the huge touchpad when I was using a Mac.