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    465 points susanthenerd | 11 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 1.103s | source | bottom
    1. andrewmcwatters ◴[26 Aug 25 15:48 UTC] No.45028193[source]▶
    Will Framework ever ship high-end laptops, or is the niche always going to be low-to-mid spec repairable?

    The specification targets on them are always chronically low.

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    2. miloignis ◴[26 Aug 25 15:58 UTC] No.45028343[source]▶
    What does high-end mean to you/what specs do you find to be too low? I've found them plenty powerful for a dev machine.
    3. adgjlsfhk1 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:59 UTC] No.45028353[source]▶
    What do you mean by high end? The Framework 13 can be configured with an AMD AI 370 (12 cores/24 threads zen5), a 2.8k 120 hz display, 96GB of ram and an 8TB SSD. That seems pretty high end to me?
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    4. lushy-typeable ◴[26 Aug 25 16:13 UTC] No.45028565[source]▶
    It would be nice to see a 5070 Ti, 5080, or even Quadro-grade RTX 5000 ADA for graphics-oriented workloads.

    I'm not sure the type-c (200-230w) would be sufficient to run these cards at their reccomended TGP (150w) + CPU (50w) + charge - not that most 16" productivity-oriented notebooks do (70-115W).

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    5. regularfry ◴[26 Aug 25 17:04 UTC] No.45029343[source]▶
    The spec says the type-C PSU is 240W, which is faintly terrifying.
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    6. lushy-typeable ◴[26 Aug 25 17:14 UTC] No.45029488{3}[source]▶
    Issue is that the circuitry to convert the USB-C PD 20V to e.g. 12V and 5V for componenets results in a power loss - so realistically take 5-10% off any USB-C adapter's wattage.

    Gaming/productivity laptops of similar size ship with 300W power bricks now (e.g. MSI Vector 16 HX AI with RTX5090 ships with a 330W adapter to satisfy its 240W system power). It's also why most still use their own connector (ASUS decided to use their own connector due to conversion efficiency and heat issues with USB-C at high wattage).

    Still, 330W pales in comparison of the TGP of a desktop-class RTX5070 (requires 250W). Nevermind the RTX5090's requirements (575W).

    7. tracker1 ◴[26 Aug 25 18:12 UTC] No.45030197[source]▶
    They could run in lower power mode(s)... Given the power/cooling requirements for the module, I'm not sure they'd perform much better than the 5070 option already there. Another comment mentioned the 5070 is configured to run at 100W.
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    10. adgjlsfhk1 ◴[26 Aug 25 21:21 UTC] No.45032483{3}[source]▶
    a 5070ti would be a lot better since that gets you up to 12gb VRAM.
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    11. tracker1 ◴[27 Aug 25 15:46 UTC] No.45041263{4}[source]▶
    Or... NVidia could allow 16gb with a 5070. It's relatively arbitrary anyway, and the power limits are mostly in conjunction with thermal limits in their module design anyway, so it likely makes less relative sense to go up the stack at those limits.