US Intel

To be honest, regardless of the government involvement or not, I have little hope for intel. Maybe they can, over time, have an AMD-esque comeback, but given their track record of the past few years I'm not hopeful.

The Pentium -> Core2Duo was a great era for intel, but I feel like ever since then they've started a decline in both price/value proposition as well as just general hardware.

The i-series was arguably pretty good for gaming, but then they started exploiting that position by having relatively poor price-to-performance, thinking they wouldn't have any competition.. and they kept the 'we are winning' mindset even while AMD was hot on their heels.

And Core was a lucky happenstance for Intel as they were not innovating at all and fell behind, thank goodness their isreal lab was doing something other than P4 work.

Even recently, we've seen that all intel can do is increase cores and increase power consumption, and they still can't compete. This is itanium all over again, because that is how intel functions.

Well, they do have N100 & co. which are very nice low power x86 devices... Not all is bad that carries their name. But the main question is can they succeed as foundry? We will see in a few years I guess.

This is just doomerism.

Intel's current chips are "fine" and competitive with AMD chips. If anything, Intel is trying out more things than AMD is.

I wouldn't call chips that fault and/or fail after mere months of operation when run within Intel-specified power and thermal parameters to be "fine".

Intel may be trying out more things than AMD, but perhaps they shouldn't? Maybe they shouldn't be trying to chase ARM envy with mixed-performance cores and disabling MT and the like and just stick to making reliable CPUs.

Honestly, the only thing of Intel's that I'm interested in are their video cards; and that's not because they're good, but because Intel hasn't (yet) all but abandoned their video card business for "AI accelerators"... so there's room for them to become good.

"Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks", isn't a top tier business strategy, it is desperate though.