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405 points Bogdanp | 5 comments | | HN request time: 0.208s | source
1. stack_framer ◴[] No.45024727[source]
How ironic that Daring Fireball, with its eternally drab background color and microscopic font size, is endeavoring to criticize Apple's icons.

No doubt Apple's icons have worsened, but Daring Fireball is throwing rocks from its exceedingly brittle glass house.

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2. fnordsensei ◴[] No.45025561[source]
Sorry, but what does one have to do with the other?

Are you one of those people who think you can’t criticize a movie unless you’re a director yourself?

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3. lapcat ◴[] No.45025733[source]
It's not ironic at all. From the article: "They all look like placeholder icons made by a developer who would be the first to admit that they’re not an artist."

I think Gruber would be the first to admit that he's not a designer but rather a writer. His business is one person, himself. In contrast, Apple has over a hundred thousand employees, including quite a few professional full-time designers. You would expect Apple to do vastly better at design than Gruber.

What's ironic is if Alan Dye is no better at design than John Gruber.

4. stack_framer ◴[] No.45034254[source]
> Sorry, but what does one have to do with the other?

Let me spell it out for you:

Daring Fireball has a really ugly website. On that really ugly website, they are criticizing Apple's ugly icons. This is ironic.

> Are you one of those people who think you can’t criticize a movie unless you’re a director yourself?

No.

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5. fnordsensei ◴[] No.45044575{3}[source]
Alright, then my analogy holds.

He can’t criticize Apple unless he first makes a really pretty website.

You can’t criticize the movie unless you first direct a better one.