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klipklop ◴[] No.45010448[source]
The game Alpha Centauri had the most hard hitting quote that I think applies now.

"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny...Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. Commissioner Pravin Lal, 'U.N. Declaration of Rights' "

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amelius ◴[] No.45011646[source]
> As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny.

This had until recently been only tested for top-down information. Nowadays, everyone can be a broadcaster and we're seeing quite different results.

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api ◴[] No.45012021[source]
I feel like totalitarians are learning to hack and exploit the free flow of information using sophisticated propaganda techniques.

Doesn’t mean a locked down system is better though. With that they don’t have to bother.

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AnthonyMouse ◴[] No.45012575[source]
Those are two independent problems. If you have a centralized system, you're screwed, because they just capture it. If you have a decentralized system vulnerable to propaganda techniques then they do that.

What you need is a decentralized system resistant to propaganda techniques.

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amelius ◴[] No.45012585[source]
Yes, the question is what such a system would look like. E.g. would there be limitations of free speech?
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AnthonyMouse ◴[] No.45012657[source]
Of course not. That shouldn't even be possible in a properly designed system.

Rather what you need is a means for propaganda to be rapidly identified and refuted with counterarguments in a way that its would-be victims can see it.

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1. account42 ◴[] No.45023963[source]
See the problem with that is that it makes it harder to spread your own propaganda. Can't have people questioning your Science, so out goes the independent thought and instead everyone is trained to defer to authority.

That's why we are where we are, because "both sides" want to have that control, they just want it for themselves and not those that disagree with them.