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vorpalhex ◴[] No.45015981[source]
EVE Online has had a functional anti-spam system for many years: it costs you some money to contact someone who doesn't have you in their contacts.

The amount is configurable and the feature can be turned off.

You as the receiver keep 70% of the fee.

Think of how quickly spam would go away.

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unsignedint ◴[] No.45016221[source]
Or just make callers cover all the costs, like in some countries. Still, I really wish there were an option to charge incoming callers as you suggested—because honestly, about 90% of calls I get outside my circle are unsolicited. That way, only the 10% that truly matter would reach me. Right now, I’m on a strict “no-ring” policy: if a call turns out to be legitimate, I’ll call back. But nobody gets real-time PSTN access to me anymore—it’s simply not sustainable.
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Mashimo ◴[] No.45016678[source]
> Or just make callers cover all the costs,

Wait, who covers the cost in the US?

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unsignedint ◴[] No.45016839[source]
In the US, the receiver effectively covers the cost of mobile calls—though it’s a bit nuanced, so apologies for any lack of clarity. You’re essentially paying for incoming calls if you’re on a metered plan, since those minutes get deducted. With most rate plans now being unlimited, this cost is somewhat hidden.

In Japan (the only other system I’m familiar with), it works differently: the caller is charged for the recipient’s end, while the receiver pays nothing. For example, calling a mobile phone from a landline costs more to account for the mobile portion. I remember years ago using a prepaid phone card from a payphone to call a mobile number—the balance drained incredibly fast. This is one reason why younger generations in Japan rarely rely on PSTN for routine calls, since it can quickly become expensive.

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1. Mashimo ◴[] No.45017013[source]
Dang, I never even heard about that. A few years back I read that US people had to pay for incoming SMS. That was already crazy.
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2. unsignedint ◴[] No.45017575[source]
Yes, it used to be around 15 cents or so to send or receive an SMS (depending on the rate plan). But, as with calls, unlimited messaging has become the norm these days.