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numpy-thagoras ◴[] No.45015974[source]
This is the first time in a long time on Hacker News that I've not seen universal disapproval to this measure. People are actually arguing for it, even as a devil's advocate? What the UK has been doing is wrong, it is disenfranchising and disempowering people.

The UK is not a democratic or even liberty-focused state anymore. It's always been ruled by a crowd of people who went to privately-funded schools that cost a fortune. Half the government's politicians and staffers can trace their relations back to the same historical personage.

They aren't afraid for their kids with these laws. They're afraid that this ossified, stunted system of power that's been built over 800 years will break, and they will be out of a job with pitchfork-wielding crowds chasing them out of London.

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1. Krasnol ◴[] No.45016568[source]
I'd assume those are just another symptoms of the Thielverse and where would be a better place to have it seeping into the younger, well fed tech scene than hn?

They know that they'll still be able to get around those "Inconveniences" or create their own elite places while the majority of the general public won't and we're not giving a damn about the general public anymore. That's woke and not trendy anymore.

I mean, this is so obviously wrong. People would be ashamed to argue for it back in the days.

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2. monknomo ◴[] No.45016655[source]
a sad day when liberty and freedom are considered woke
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3. numpy-thagoras ◴[] No.45016702[source]
Yep, and if that really is the case, and if they really do intend on 'preserving knowledge' in their own inner circles and special getaways, then they will be setting themselves up for a dark age. A popular backlash against all elite things will always be bad, but throwing in knowledge, liberty, and freedom into that mix will guarantee something even more terrible.
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4. monknomo ◴[] No.45017453{3}[source]
my thought on that is a lot of these folks are in for a rude awakening if they think their positions will be preserved in a society that transitions to an illiberal autocratic society. I flat do not believe they have what it takes to hang with eg the russian mafia, the saudi royal family.
5. account42 ◴[] No.45023819[source]
They're not and "woke" people don't give a shit about liberty and freedom of people with differing views either.
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6. Krasnol ◴[] No.45044304{3}[source]
This is untrue or those people with "differing views" wouldn't have a way to vote themselves into power after being so loud that it dominated significant parts of the social bubble.

But they were and they are in power now.

So this Self-Victimisation which became even more popular on the right then on the left, is outdated. It was false before but today its falsehood is reality.