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coldpie ◴[] No.45015453[source]
Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.
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jacobr1 ◴[] No.45015616[source]
How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?
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coldpie ◴[] No.45015683[source]
Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.
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1. Bender ◴[] No.45015777[source]
Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring?

There are applications to block international calls but that only helps if the number is not spoofed. People that have SS7 lines into the telco system can spoof as just about any number. I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?". This was in the 90's. I guess the laws are every so slowly starting to catch up.

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2. to11mtm ◴[] No.45015839[source]
> I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?".

This is loud to me, mostly because the last time I got non-TCPA compliant texts trying to solicit business, the VOIP provider refused to give the company's actual name or contact info.

3. spookie ◴[] No.45015946[source]
SS7 should be nuked from orbit, at some point we have to stop pretending we can't replace that pos.
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4. Bender ◴[] No.45015950[source]
SS7 should be nuked from orbit

I completely agree.

5. stackskipton ◴[] No.45018711[source]
This is telco doing as well.

It should be illegal for Telco to allow SS7 spoofing for numbers that customer does not show they own.

Initial SIP setup shows number not to be a number they own, drop the SIP dial and be done with it.

Also, all US based phone numbers should have US based person tied to it. If they misbehave, drop them and blacklist them.

All this is solvable if we don't let phone providers get away with "Welp, the checks cleared, this is not our problem."

6. kube-system ◴[] No.45020455[source]
Also, VoIP goes over the Internet and the Internet is international.

Country codes stopped being indicative of location the moment we removed the wires from our telephones.