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Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify wider UK site-blocking?

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361 points gloxkiqcza | 1 comments | 24 Aug 25 16:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.204s | source
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torginus ◴[25 Aug 25 08:26 UTC] No.45011561[source]▶
I genuinely do not understand where how the idea of building a total surveillance police state, where all speech is monitored, can even as much as seriously be considered by an allegedly pro-democracy, pro-human rights government, much less make it into law.

Also:

Step 1: Build mass surveillance to prevent the 'bad guys' from coming into political power (its ok, we're the good guys).

Step 2: Your political opponents capitalize on your genuinely horrific overreach, and legitimize themselves in the eyes of the public as fighting against tyranny (unfortunately for you they do have a point). They promise to dismantle the system if coming to power.

Step 3: They get elected.

Step 4: They don't dismantle the system, now the people you planned to use the system against are using it against you.

Sounds brilliant, lets do this.

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luke727 ◴[25 Aug 25 09:27 UTC] No.45011932[source]▶
The thing you have to understand is that the average Brit wants and possibly needs the government to tell them how to live their lives. It's a completely foreign paradigm to the average American, though alarming "progress" has been made on the American front as of late.
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sailorganymede ◴[25 Aug 25 09:38 UTC] No.45012013[source]▶
Average Brit here - we do not like this and the way politics here has been so tumultuous has shown the general public are sick of this behaviour too.
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luke727 ◴[25 Aug 25 09:58 UTC] No.45012148[source]▶
Tumultuous in what way? There's so little distance between Conservative and Labour today that it really doesn't matter who's in power.
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1. bigfudge ◴[25 Aug 25 10:39 UTC] No.45012398[source]▶
I think there’s more difference than there has been since the 1980s. People really underestimate how far the Tory base (and parliamentary party following closely) have shifted to the right. The willingness of sitting Tory MPs to knowingly lie and dissemble on immigration related issues to create heat is a real break from a past consensus.