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recursivedoubts ◴[] No.45008524[source]
this is the logical conclusion of outsourcing: we kept giving away the low end electronics and now we can't compete on the high end w/o government subsidy

the supply chain moved to asia and the just so stories about ricardian free trade + an inflated stock market made everyone believe, while the ultra-rich got ultra-ultra-rich

and now we sit down to our banquet of consequences

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x0x0 ◴[] No.45008827[source]
From my pov, it looks more like intel shit the bed repeatedly.

Missed on: mobile, custom chips in the data center, graphics cards, ai, and building out fab services they can sell.

Meanwhile, they took at least 5 years off of making their chips faster, and we're treated to the absurdity that the m-series chips are as performant in single core as anything Intel can build on a power budget 1/10th of Intel's.

I'm not sure what that has to do with outsourcing? It looks more like a comprehensive lack of execution.

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marsten ◴[] No.45010731[source]
Intel should have spun out their fab in 2009-2010 when the signs were clear: Mobile was taking off, AMD spun out their fab, Intel had missed the boat on mobile CPUs, and Apple had acquired PA Semi and was investing heavily in custom silicon.

High-end fab is a volume game and that was the time frame when Intel was still process competitive and could have competed for Apple's business (and Nvidia's, ...). But that would never happen as a division of Intel, nobody wants to send their designs to a competitor.

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1. x0x0 ◴[] No.45012341[source]
You're probably right; either that or beat Qualcomm/Samsung at providing the non-Apple chips. As rafaelmn points out, 2010 may be premature, but by 2015, they should have understood.

How they fiddled and watched Apple take the phones that make a profit; Samsung/Qualcomm provide chips to the rest; and all the hyperscalers make their own arm chips in the data center while doing nothing. Absolutely nothing. Is beyond comprehension.

Meanwhile, (I think Asianometry?) pointed out that Intel's headcount was recently as large as AMD, nVidia, and TSMC combined.